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People, it's a joke! Stop freaking out...if you take the time to look around you'll realize that the whole point of this group is satire.

what a sick and evil lot of people.death will come to all of u as people unite world wide in mass against obscene wealth of companies and individuals!!!

At first I was skeptical, but I decided to give it a fair chance. It was also interesting to listen to their ideas and arguments. If you havent yet heard about The Venus Project, Zeitgeist - The Movie and Zeitgeist - Addendum, please google it and check it out.

by the way i bet the benefits of medicare have kept Bridgets grandmother alive and mentally capable enough to learn how to email that conservative crap, most of which is clearly not based in fact. it's just the pathetic crap that the right sends out to sheltered grandmas and grandpas in the middle of Alabama, etc.....I would love to see the percentage of folks, who are conservative and against healthcare who actually are recipients of medicare benefits...

I invite all those who are against handouts and healthcare from the government to stop fucking taking it themselves.

I am having trouble deciding whether this is a joke or not. The name of this group spells out EXACTLY what iS WRONG with our current health care system. Our health care system went South in the early 90s when it went "public". The minute profit became the motive for taking care of sick people, the system was bound to fail. When 45,000 people die in this country each year for lack of health care access, something is really, really WRONG. WAKE UP AMERICA!

These guys are very much satirical and are mocking them with this.

Yeah Man I'm with You . Why that Canadian Prime Minister was stupid to come to our Country to get his heart valve replaced , he should have stayed home and got it replaced next year if there was enough money to pay for it and the waiting list wasn't too long . Ha just kidding you pack of teabagging Liberal Fuck Wads

Hey "BIKER999",

Face it jerk, YOU are NOTHING but a STUPID shill for corporations. I would rather trust THE GOVERNMENT over CORPORATIONS because WE the people ARE The Government, but of course an UNPATRIOTIC LOSER like yourself wouldn't understand the concept of government "by and for the people" would you?


Furthermore, if Bridget's grandmother is sending unwanted RIGHT WING PROPAGANDA garbage in her EMail, then maybe it's HER GRANDMOTHER that needs "STRAIGHTENING OUT", just like YOU needs "STRAIGHTENING OUT" you MORON!

I would WELCOME a healthy debate with you, but experience has taught me that debate with a person as STUPID as YOU ARE is FUTILE, so WHY BOTHER.

However the offer STILL STANDS!

So, BRING IT ON!

People LIKE YOU make me SICK!

I laugh so hard whenever rachel maddow shows your clips my insides start hurting real bad. I'm also severely tempted to email some to my grandmother to return the favor of all the lovely uber-conserative propaganda she always sends me that I end up deleting anyway. Absolutely love spoof on americans for prosperity, keep up the good work!!!!!

So, you are tempted to parade your ignorance in front of your grandmother like a flag of superiority. I'm sure she is already aware. That is probably why she sends you conservative information. She is desperately trying to reach you.

Are you proud to denigrate the people who passed on the wonderful life that you live, a life that is the envy of all human beings on the planet and that is unimaginable in all of human history in its freedom and prosperity?

After all that your grandmother has done to contribute to a better life for future generations and all that she continues to do to attempt to reach you with her wisdom and knowledge acquired through many more decades of living than you have attained, are you proud to mock her and brag about deleting her emails on this forum?

Is this the tolerance and open-mindedness that our liberal universities have imparted to our youth?

My disgust and disappointment is only mitigated by the certainty of the misery that you will suffer for your arrogant ignorance.

hahahhahaha first of all your name is BIKER999 you sound like such a bad ass
go ride your fucking bike off a cliff you dumb fuck... oh wait you probably don't have one and youre too busy fighting for LIBERTY AND FREEDOM...on the internet... why don't you get back to what you really should be doing... beating off to glenn beck

I'm opposed to the healthcare, but if these young idiots want to support me in my older age, then so be it. Let them pay for this for the next 40 years and when they realize they gave the government just what they wanted...ignorant young adults going along like sheep (thinking they're saving the poor underprivileged children of the world), they'll spend the rest of their years trying to hid their money so they can keep some of it. They can't figure out that with paying a modest tax bracket of 25% plus FICA and Medicare, plus property taxes, plus sales taxes, gasoline taxes, etc. they're paying over 50% of their earnings ALREADY in taxes NOT including the healthcare costs yet. (Go ahead-do the math! I'll wait while you calculate it.) Let them grow up the hard way and I'll be laughing while they're paying for my hip replacement! They are drones...without critical thinking skills or finance/tax skills for that matter.

if you think its so bad just dont' get a fucking hip replacement, save us morons some of our money...i thinkwhen it comes time for that hip replacement, that's when you should really take your stand against healthcare and don't get it!! Show the "sheeple" how it's done, while your at it, don't fucking drive on the roads, and don't fucking call EMS when your stuck on your ass in your bunker because your hip is broke. Here's what you can do....take your beloved gun and put yourself down...that's the only truley libertarian way to go out. If you want to go it alone and you don't want to help anybody else out along the way, then when you NEED...... FU, not on my dime.

Billionaires for WealthCare stick the contradiction in the hypocrites faces. Even though many of the folks wearing those little crosses around their necks just do not get it

The premise of this group is idiotic.

You don't have to be a billionaire, or even wealthy at all, to recognize the dangers of a government take-over of health care.

The notion that only billionaires oppose Obamacare is ludicrous:
http://hotair.com/archives/2009/10/08/pew-plura...

My guess is that this is group is supported by Unions, who have much to gain from a massive increase in the size of the State.

It's not a take-over. That's conspiracy theory. It's an EXTREMELY conservative (compared to other national healthcare programs) push to keep crooked private insurers accountable.

Why don't you want insurers to have to compete?

Unaccountable crooked politicians are going to keep crooked insurers accountable? What are you smoking? Where do you get these idiotic notions?

There are over 1100 insurance providers. Where is the lack of competition? The main hindrance to competition comes from the government mandate that you cannot obtain insurance outside of your state. If you want competition, how about fighting to have that restriction lifted. But, you never will, will you? Because, despite your disingenuous cry for competition, you hate competition, don't you? You despise the animating contest of free market capitalism don't you? Don't try to shine me on that you champion competition. You worship at one altar - the state.

Why don't you argue on that basis? Why don't you tell us all why totalitarian, collectivist state control over the people is preferable to individual choice? Nobody is fooled by your advocacy of this monstrosity on the basis of "competition?"

Do you have any background in political science, healthcare or healthcare economics?
Just wondering, b/c there is a difference b/w providing healthcare for the entire country and having a "totalitarian" state that sacrifices individualism. Many European countries provide universal healthcare, and one would be hard-pressed to argue that citizens of the UK or Switzerland are experiencing loss of personal choice. In fact, the US VA system is comprehensive and government organized. And, I might add, demonstrates better cost-efficiency and healthcare outcomes that any other system in our country.

Regarding your previous post...
"Do you think government is immune to the economic reality of "scarcity?" Are you even aware of this concept? Do you think that passing market realities over to corrupt politicians and rigid bureaucracies nullifies this economic reality?"

1) No government is "immune to the economic reality of scarcity." However, some governments balance scarcity across an entire population to minimize its overall effect, rather than localizing scarcity by severely limiting care to 1/3 of their population. Every economy and healthcare system has scarcity, and in some way, every economy and healthcare system rations care. Argue against comprehensive health care systems if you prefer. However, time and time again, polls demonstrate more patient satisfaction in the UK/Canadian systems than in the US system (by far). And, equally important, their respective healthcare systems provide better patient outcomes relative to the US system.

2) Nobody is talking about turning over the healthcare market to corrupt politicians. Though, nobody is arguing that some politicians aren't corrupt either. Creating a comprehensive healthcare infrastructure through the political process has worked, repeatedly, throughout much of the developed world, as it did in our VA system. The end product is a framework that is relatively free of corruption compared to our current system. Finally, I might add, it produces a system regulated by relatively transparent policies...which is far from where we find ourselves in the present.

For those who still seem to hang on to the idea that this is the "best system in the world," I'd be happy to see some supportive evidence.

Wasn't that the Republican plan that briefly made an appearance, and exited just ask quickly as it entered when it was discovered that it would actually increase the number of uninsured people?

Great plan, Toolbox. Go watch some more of Glenn Beck's stand-up.

@Biker999

Thank you for supporting our bank accounts. People like you make our job of "collecting" American dollars so much easier.

As a participant in Michelle Bachman's "House Call" rally against the government takeover of the medical industry in Washington DC yesterday, I saw you 5 or 6 naive young fools mocking our concerns, characterizing us as shills for billionaire exploiters of the sick.

I have a few questions for you geniuses.

I and 10 thousand fellow Americans took a day off work and dug in our own pockets to travel to the nation's capital to voice our concerns. I paid $50 for a seat on a bus chartered by our Tea Party group. Many others bought airplane or bus tickets, or drove from distant states to be there. We were not remunerated one cent by anybody. My question to you young idealists - did you pay your way? If not, who did? Health insurance companies are not the only lobbyists. There are many interests who seek to gain millions of taxpayer dollars when one sixth of the American economy - 3 trillion dollars- is transferred to a corrupt government. Did you march for free? Were you paid by the hour? We did not and we were not. I was not being used as a pawn for any interest. My activism springs from my personal concern for liberty. Can you tell me you are not a pawn of special interests. You cannot if you received one dime for travel, accommodation, or any other consideration from any organization.

On this site you deride health insurance companies for "adhere(ing) to strict cost-to-profit ratios when denying claims." Do you think government is immune to the economic reality of "scarcity?" Are you even aware of this concept? Do you think that passing market realities over to corrupt politicians and rigid bureaucracies nullifies this economic reality? Let me enlighten you. The health insurance entities with, by far, the highest rate of denial of claims are Medicare and Medicaid! How's that lofty cost-to-profit ratio demagoguery looking now?

So, why is it that government-run health-care fares worse than private-run health-care in the old cost-to-profit/denial of claims arena? Because the private sector must compete to retain customers. The government has a captive customer base with nowhere else to go. Tough concept for you youngsters, I know. You will discover this reality to your horror when your dream of total government control over this vital service is realized.

You claim on your site that our health care system is broken. Admittedly, there are many areas of our free market system that can be cursed and demonized. We can all attest to shoddy service and maddening bureaucratic mazes. But, this is the nature of all human endeavor. You could say the same about car repairs, plumbers and every other service provided by human beings. Does this mean we turn it all over to the corrupt morons in Washington DC? What have these creatures ever done that engenders such monumental deference that you would turn the decisions that affect your very life over to them? How have they comported themselves with their own personal lives, their leaking of top secret information, their enacting of laws inimical to our civil liberties, their unending demonstration to all of us that their primary mission in every waking and sleeping moment of their lives is the acquisition of power and wealth, that would make you so fervent to entrust the most critical and private part of your lives to them?

Greed and corruption is certainly endemic in our corporations. But, is there something in the air in Washington DC that erases these vices inherent in the rest of us? The only thing that you change when transferring industry from the private sector to the federal government is removal of competition and accountability, not greed and corruption.

Once the government is in charge greed and corruption have no overseer. There are no laws to challenge their abuses. There are no appeals to courts. There is no choice to flee your provider. The entire concept of criminality, malpractice and incompetence goes out the window. Enron was punished. Fannie Mae was not. Is this what you consider the remedy to private sector deficiencies?

If our present system is so broken, and you and the Democrat media machine are so motivated to fix it, where is the evidence of this crisis. I would think that, if there is some crisis of care in this country, you could provide us with thousands of examples of human beings with diseases untreated and injuries unmended. Where are the pictures of hospital corridors lined with suffering humanity. Where is the poor uninsured victim of the system with a broken ankle unseen by a doctor? Where is the child of the inner city family who is not getting his insulin shots? Can't provide thousands of such cases? How about hundreds? No, I haven't seen that either. How about tens of these pathetic such cases? Nope. How about one, single case? Do you mean that this horrible, broken system can't put one single child on MSNBC or the New York Times, or Newsweek who cannot get his insulin? Nancy Pelosi can't dredge up one single person in this entire country with a broken arm who can't see a doctor? Some "broken" system!"

And, if you still insist that the poor and the aged and the children are suffering without health care, haven't we already provided for them with Medicaid, Medicare and SCHIP? These are run by the exact same government that you want to entrust with all of our health care. Are you saying that these programs are failures? Yes you are! Why would you mock the concerns of millions of everyday Americans who fear being forced into a similar program?

You also cite the rising cost of health care on this site. Are you aware that Medicare and Medicaid pay providers under market prices? For you economic illiterates, that means that the providers cannot continue to provide at those rates. This forces them to charge higher rates to the rest of their customers. Since the private sector essentially subsidizes the government programs, where will the government programs make up this shortfall once they run all of it. I will inform you. It will be done through rationing. It will be apparent in filth, shoddiness, waiting times, neglect, death and misery. If, today, the government programs cannot support themselves without leeching off the private sector, what other result can ensue when the private sector has been killed off?

Oh, then you will have your horror stories by the thousands. But it will be too late. You will look back on this, "broken system" like it was Nirvana.

Most of us at the rally in Washington DC were older Americans, though there were many magnificent, educated young people with common sense and an awareness of the blessings of liberty passed on to us by the wisdom of our founders and our Constitution. Our concerns are genuine, heartfelt and based on common sense and human history. They spring from experience and the knowledge of human frailty. We, too, were once idealistic youth. But, we have watched the political elite and the functioning of the heartless bureaucracy over many decades and realized why the founders put strict limitations on their powers. They are mostly power hungry idiots utterly lacking in empathy and compassion. They are not wise, caring philosopher kings. They are not pushing this health care from beneficent motives. They see trillions of dollars that they can control along with the lives of the serfs.

You may not agree with many of the opinions expressed here. But to mock and dismiss us as pawns of greedy insurance companies and billionaire financial interests is absurd and short-sighted on your part.

We went to Washington DC yesterday for you. Our liberties were passed to us by the vigilant oversight of previous generations who knew the dangers of exchanging notions of security to far-distant elites for some degree of personal liberty. We will soon be gone and the horrific effects of turning over this vital sector of life to politicians will not be realized by us. We went to Washington for our children and our grand children - for you. We went yesterday for the same reason that our founders established this nation - to confer the blessings of liberty to our posterity.

Your youthful idealism causes you to labor in the camp of your future oppressors.

We only wish to pass along to our posterity that which was passed along to us.

Does this merit your ridicule? For this love of our children, to wish to not see them enslaved to a Socialist ant heap of existence by unfeeling bureaucrats and corrupt politicians are we to be mocked?

I am sure you reviled George Bush, Dick Cheney, Newt Gingrich and many other politicians in your lifetimes. Is there something in your calculus that deludes you to think that, once nationalized medicine has been passed, that such frail creatures will never again have the reins of power? What I am asking is, will you willingly transfer these most basic elements of you and your family's existence to someone like George Bush?

That is what you are doing by advocating government takeover of health care.

And, one last note on the evil insurance companies profiting off the misery of the masses - the profit margin for health insurance companies was 3.3% last year ranking them 86th out of all industries. And, what the Hell is wrong with profits anyway. Their ability to compensate for catastrophic events as well as your 401K and pension are dependent on profits as is the growth of the economy, jobs, taxes and all other good things.

The businessman lies awake nights wondering how to provide a better product or service at a lower price. The politician lies awake wondering how to get a higher price for less service.

To you brainwashed drones who pranced around in your tuxes and party dresses yesterday, I have no hope. This is addressed to the other visitors to this site who may have absorbed some of this statist worship, but still have an open mind to the dangers of Socialism.

With fondest love for future generations,

Doug Wakeman

God, you are a blowhard, bikkker. With all that hot air you can compete with the balloon boy.

and, that's only on ONE six pack! You should hear me on a twelver!

Well, that explains why you are such a LOUD MOUTH! Just think, you can have your alcoholism treated when there is real health reform in this country!

Well said Doug.

Simply brilliant. As a wanna-be billionaire myself, I have been inspired to spread the word: http://thethighmasterroutetokona.blogspot.com/2...

Billionaires unite!!

I love the site. Rock on billionaires!

I've been doing research on the lack of accountability and transparency in the death care industry. Came across a website:www.acancerdoctor.com. It appears the involvement with the "featured" doctor and the Natl Inst of Health begs to question what is going on at the NIH. Apparently the doc has a rap sheet a mile long---including tax and med ins fraud, but yet is paid as a federal employee thru the NIH huh?! The NIH is supporting a health care criminal with our tax dollars???? Now, that is the spirit!

A criminal doctor will fit right into our government. Congress is full of criminals and the White House even more so. Obama is a criminal's criminal, he has pulled the biggest scam known to man.

By denying healthcare to some we avoid rationing for all!

Sorry. That sound like acceptable losses. Sacrifice the minority. I've never been in the military, and it may be Hollywood perception, but I thought the soldiers always went back for the wounded. Would you accept your role as an uninsured to avoid rationing for all? Even Bill O'Reilly said we're not going to let them die in the streets. He meant well, but it could very well happen. Documented on video, a sick woman was ignored and died in a hospital waiting room. That's not very far from the streets.
JD

It looks like you've covered 80% of the Republican agenda (minus pro-life, creationism, et.al.).

Seriously, you've hit a nerve. This is what it's all about: A Tale of Two Americas. Wall St. runs the show. Washington is theater. Perhaps you might give some open attention to the Wall Street's hidden (in plain sight) Poverty Engineering program, the systematic impoverishment of the middle class. In the words of George Carlin, "no one seems to notice, no one seems to care."

Paraphrasing Steven Colbert, we are indeed a country where we can get the populace to vote against its own interests. The best recent smokescreen was the "death panel" and "socialism" shouts at the town meetings. Don't those people realize the private health insurance companies have been doing the death panel thing for a long time, so I guess they want to keep that. In the end we mostly get what we deserve. If any of those people lost their health insurance, they'd change their tune real fast. But as for the 40M+ uninsured, it's the American character: if you have health insurance, you don't care about those who don't.

Confused? Keep these equations straight:

capitalism = democracy
health care = socialism

Like any of this? Try more at the link below.
JD

Saw you guys (in another guise) at the protest march in D.C. (9/26th/2006??) around Katrina's strike. We marched that day and loved seeing you all in great satire. Keep it up! In fact, push it a little more. Get more press. Get more exposure. It is a classy way to get the message out there. You need a good PR department!

Sounds to me like you're a group of jobless theater majors. If you spent as much time trying to get a career as you did practicing, you would have healthcare!

62% of bankruptcies in this country are caused by our failed healthcare system. Do you think none of those people had jobs when their family members got sick?
Go crawl under a rock.

B.S. Prove that - oh yeah - you can't/

http://www.cnn.com/2009/HEALTH/06/05/bankruptcy...

Idiot.
They're called keywords. Try them out sometime.

This is such an absurd argument. Whenever I ask someone to defend Obamacare, their response is that "our current system is too expensive!", or something along the lines.

Don't you realize that a government takeover will make health care LESS accessible, not more?

Consider what effect rent control has on how affordable housing is.

Randolph, your own example (rent control) points not to the failure of regulation but the need for it. Rent control has largely disappeared in cities like New York and with it so has the middle class. Though Sarah Palin may get a free pass for her nonsensical, circular arguments, you'd be wise not to do the same.